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The original Moloss - dog of King Pyrros

The mighty Skilos tou Pyrrou is very rare, but still alive. The future looks promising for this ancient Molosser and revival efforts are reportedly showing some success. Once the people of Greece reacquaint themselves with their indigenous breeds and put in an effort to preserve and promote them, many of the great original Molossers will be saved from extinction. The process has started...
Photo courtesy of Petros from Athena.

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Poimen   [Jun 20, 2005 at 10:02 AM]
I have to question the validity of the dog shown above. Too many short tails among the new photos of Greek flock guardians. The white dog above its uncomfortably close to a Central Asian Owtcharka. This dog, if Greek at all, is probably of the white lupoid strain but very untypical in outline, too square, too large in size, both cropped ears are untypical as is docked tail.
Wolf   [Jun 20, 2005 at 10:18 AM]
Poimen, it's okay to question things. Let me ask you something... Have you ever seen a Skilos tou Pyrrou? How far up north have you travelled and how many dogs have you encountered? Ear-cropping and docking of the tail is more or less a regional practice, in some areas only one ear is cropped, in some both and in others the ears are left natural. Same goes for the tail docking. I've seen a few dogs in Greece that had naturally stumpy tails, but there were also examples with their tails docked like above, as well as many dogs that were unaltered. Also, this dog only superficially resembles a CAO, but then again it superficially resembles a few other breeds as well. I have no way of knowing if this specimen is pure or maybe crossed with something to revive the Skilos tou Pyrrou, but it looks very similar to the dogs I've seen myself, apart from having a bit of a square body, as you've noticed yourself, although that can simply be the photo or the way the dog was standing. I'd go as far as saying that apart from the colour, this example is quite mastiffy and looks more like the Skilos tou Alexandrou than the majority of Pyrrou dogs I've seen, but then again I haven't seen them all.
FAINOMENON   [Jun 21, 2014 at 02:18 PM]
not a valid photo, breed name or classification.
admin   [Jun 22, 2014 at 04:58 AM]
Thank you for the comment. Do you have information to the contrary. I will be happy to change it.
FAINOMENON   [Jun 22, 2014 at 05:28 AM]
As I explained in other comments, “Skilos tou Ryrrou” was a name given to the white flock guardian landrace of Greece, before it became officially recognised by the Kennel Club of Greece. It was not a name that “stuck” and the variety has since been recognised officially by the KCG as a breed in its own right, under the name Lefko Elliniko Tsopanoskylo (White Hellenic Sheepdog). Here is a link to a page with the breed standard (in Greek) and a much more representative photo of a typical specimen. (The photo is actually from the Greek doggy magazine I used to co-publish and edit, in the 90s, “Dog's o Kosmos tou Skylou”, so you have my permission to use it). (...)
FAINOMENON   [Jun 22, 2014 at 05:30 AM]
I hope you are able to access the link I posted above. If not, I can send you the photo. The dog pictured above is not, I'm afraid, a typical L.E.T. -or as it used to be called before (by a small group of people admittedly) “Skilos tou Pyrrou”. Sadly with the importation of foreign livestock guardians to Greece we have seen crossbreeding of Greek stock with Caucasian & Central Asian owtcharkas and the above dog is definitely NOT of authentic Greek type, as I can tell you in all honesty and integrity as an FCI judge: it's either a CAS or a cross and it would definitely neither be registered in Greece as a L.E.T. nor used in breeding by any true connoisseur of the authentic native flock guardian types, breeds and landraces under development. I concur with Poimen's comment above that the photo is not typical.

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