What are the main differences between a well bred rottie and cane corso in terms of temperament, aggression towards strange people and strange dogs, trainability, health concerns, adaptability in small places. Any other difference you could mention it. Also I know that both are great breeds that with a lot of work can make excellent pets, but i'm more interested in their predisposition and their normal tendecies towards each of the conduct above mentioned.
if this two breeds were the same they won't have dofferent standarts lol as much as i know C the main difference in them is A they weren't breed for work so long as the rotti B they exposure at young age is more important than to any other breed
The Rottweiler is a dog that has been breed true for much of a longer time than the Corso, many corso's have rottie in them already, from 30-50 percent line breed and inbreed. The rottie in my opinion is a much better guard dog, sharper temp, and easier to train than a cc, but they are socially dominant dogs. The Corso's are good dogs, I have found some to be very happy dogs, overly aggressive, and inconsistent, but the same can be said for the modern rottie. I believe socialization is key for both breeds. I find the rottie to be more consistent and intelligent than the corso. I say look at each breed for what they are and go from there.
IF YOU LIKE NEOS THEN YOU WILL LIKE A CORSO MORE SO THEN A ROTTIE IF YOUR A PUREST AND LOVE ROTTIES-KEEP YOUR ROTTIES -BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CORSO YOU REALLY HAVE A GOOD DOG AND IF YOU LIKE WT PULL PITS THEN A CORSO IS YOUR UPGRADE FROM THOSE PIT HYBREDS-THEN YOU CAN HAVE A NEO HYBRED INSTEAD-
comparing the rottweiler with a corso, is like comparing the sun and the moon. there is a world of difference between those 2 breeds. the rottweiler is so dominant and will allways test you, and fight you for the leadership. he needs a firm or hard hand, when you train him. he is allso very dog aggressive. rottweilers scare the hell out off me. for some reasson they allways bite me 8O the cane corso is an angel, so easy to train, he will never take any fights with you, he is totally submissive and is great with all other dogs and animals, when socialised correct. he must be trained with your mind and with love. you wont find a braver, tuffer or more loyal dog than the cane corso. only a bullit can stop him, if he thinks that his owner is in danger (but the owner can stop him, just by changing the expression in his face).he is the juwel among dogbreeds (if you are the right type of owner). it is an ultra intelligent breed, and he reads people like an open book, in a split second. So he needs an owner who is likewise :D I control my pack only by bodylanguige and different faces. its very seldom I need to use the voice, mostly with puppys and the teenagers im not sure if you can compare the CC with the neomastiff. My experience with the neomastiff is, that he is ultra dominant to people, even the owner. But maby its just bad breeding we have in denmark, i dont know. just my oppinion :D
I respect your opinion and this is no way intended to offend you. To say the rottie is dog aggressive is not true, to say the rottie needs a hard hand is not true. Any dog at any time can be aggressive, I don't truly ever believe a dog needs a heavy hand. Its about bonding and training. I owne rotties for a long time and breed them. I never had any problem mentioned above. If you project fear a rottie will pick that up instantaneously. The corso has rottie blood in it, along with other breeds and the neo, well many of the lines do. If you study the history you will see both breeds intertwine in the legendary roman days. This is one reason why I left the breed and the ICCF, was the fact of constantly comparing the rottie to the corso. At this point in both breeds history, the corso will have a long way to go to catch to what a rottie is and can do. I do like the corso and owned and breed them. I showed them and worked them. Great dogs, but nothing can ever replace a well breed, cared for and trained rottie. The corso at this point is too inconsistent, from reverse scissors, scissors, even bites, to height, weight, head type, muzzle type, the confirmation is totally off. I love the breed and I wish to see it succeed. The corso is the breed of right now, unfortunately if there is no unity then the breed is doomed.
please explain this to me, I didnt understood what it ment [quote][blockquote]The corso at this point is too inconsistent, from reverse scissors, scissors, even bites, to height, weight, head type, muzzle type, the confirmation is totally off. I love the breed and I wish to see it succeed. The corso is the breed of right now, unfortunately if there is no unity then the breed is doomed.[/blockquote] I live in a small country, and I think that breeds are different from country to country. I have been training in the danish rottweilerclub for some years with my cane corsi. The dogs I meet there was fearce dogs, not being able to be loose together with other dogs. And your so right. the rottweiler can feel that im week, when he stands there staring at me with his yellow eyes, and he react out from that feeling. Maby I just dont understand that breed. They come to you and want to be pettet, but after a while he starts to grouwl, and then I get like a statue off fear. I dont know what it is with me and this breed. Im great with all other muscledog breeds, Give me a pit or bandog, and we will get to an understanding. but the rottweiler.. 8O [/quote]
I would say that the popularity of the Rottie during the 80s and 90s has allowed for even more inconsistency than the Corso. Yes, the Corso is a young breed with different standards across both sides of the lake!!! But I have seen some great and horrible rotties and the same thing for Corsos. I have owned Rotties and currently own Corsos. My last Rottie was a Von Ross Rottie named Kaiser! What a beast!! It was a great animal and was a very important part of our family. However, I must agree that he was VERY DOMINANT and would challenge the wife constantly. The wife loved him, but she's 1.60 meters (5'1") and about 45 kilos or 110 pounds so the dog was as heavy if not heavier than she was!!! He was smart and trainable! Now to the Corso... I will never go back to Rotties!!! A well bred Corso that comes from good working parents that are sound in temperament and conformation will be the best dog you could possible have. These dogs thrive on company and NEED to live with its humans! They are great with children and with the family and no one in our household has ever had HARD challenges. Of course, as with every dominant breed they will challenge, but never to the level I have experienced with my Rotties. Nevertheless, I must say that an UNSOCIALIZED and aggressive Corso is very dangerous!!! These dogs require lots of socialization from day 1. Our dogs will be playing with the kids, kids friends, etc. and in an instant will become a fierce protector!!!! I've witnessed this many times!!! They are very defense oriented, but will take cues from the master and have an amazing on / off switch!! This is my opinion, and I have had rotties from europe and from the U.S. I love all dogs, and the Rottie as well, but the Corso is by far the best dog I've owned. I've oned from poodles, to labs, to rotties, to schnauzers to Corsos!! I'm sure there are some great rotties out there, and some bad corsos, but i'm talking about my experiences!!! Cheers, ALV
I understand, but it all comes down to bonding and training. To say the rottie is too dominant, I am sorry to say, is a cop out, an excuse. My wife is able to handle every single one of dogs, she puts forth the effort and dominates our dogs. They know she is there alpha. You have to be able to communicate with your dog. Filas, presas, co's, cao's, dobermans, gsds, sars, almost any bull or molosser breed is dominate. I don't want to make an argument about this, but it bothers me due to the fact that a light is being shined on one breed and taken away from another. Its one thing to like one breed over another, but when I here talks about aggression and dominance it does nothing to help the breed, the rottie already has a bad name and the corso is following suit. This is the same argument I heard 8 years ago in the ICCF when they published a quarterly of how much better the rottie is, the next issue talked about a corso being a better catch dog than an AB. Its not right to promote another breed by degrading another, its counterproductive at best.
I completely agree with you bullmol242, I own a Rottweiler and granted i'm no professional dogbreeder but I think this is an amazing breed. I have owned several some maybe more agressive than others but like you said its with any guard dog or bulldog breed socialization is the key. I hate reading a post when they put a certain breed down I mean I usually dont say anything but to put down a Rottie and say a Cane Corso is a much better dog isnt right.
bulmol please explain what the following ment. I feel that I missed something important(english isent my languige, and sometímes I dont get it all) - this is the part - [quote]The corso at this point is too inconsistent, from reverse scissors, scissors, even bites, to height, weight, head type, muzzle type, the confirmation is totally off. I love the breed and I wish to see it succeed. The corso is the breed of right now, unfortunately if there is no unity then the breed is doomed.[/quote] ALV I love the way you descripe the corso, it is so right. an unsocialised corso is the dog from hell. socialisation is as important, as food and water About rotties.. could it be that we all have different wievs off the breeds because we all have different kind of personality?
I mean the "type" for the corso is not set. Different head structures, temperment issues, confirmation period. Years ago, you could never find a corso with a reverse scissors bite, you would only see a corso with minimal white and most times on the chest. You have corso with boxer influence, ab influence and ddb influence. I love the breed but whats happening to the corso is somewhat similar to the american bulldog, various strains which means people are working on their agenda and not the breeds. Just look at italian corsos versus the american or the canadian corso. The size of the corso is not even set, smaller dogs in europe when the first ones to come from europe were true mastiff size.
[quote=bullmol242]I mean the "type" for the corso is not set. Different head structures, temperment issues, confirmation period. Years ago, you could never find a corso with a reverse scissors bite, you would only see a corso with minimal white and most times on the chest. You have corso with boxer influence, ab influence and ddb influence. I love the breed but whats happening to the corso is somewhat similar to the american bulldog, various strains which means people are working on their agenda and not the breeds. Just look at italian corsos versus the american or the canadian corso. The size of the corso is not even set, smaller dogs in europe when the first ones to come from europe were true mastiff size.[/quote] Totally untrue. Brian Borg had an import i n 1993 who was bred by Cosmo Verdino named Camilla. She was a black brindle with white from the underside of her jaw al the way down her chest, belly and up to the underside of her tail. Cosmo also had a dog called Pucchia, that had a reverse scissors bite.
those were the initial crosses made in italy and from who did he import this dog from. Everyone knows the intitial corsos in italy that were first registered had no type, it was easily seen that many dogs looked totally different from each other.
bullmol: do you mean that Corsos don't breed to the standard? because different lines breed true to their "type"! You can definately differentiate the different types within the breed between breeders! I give you that most breeders just put two dogs together, but there are few both in the U.S. and in Europe that you can unquestionably differentiate the different lines!! ALV
The Cane Corso is an incredible working dog! Can someone post 7-8 pictures of Corsos, one from Italy, Europe, Asia, U.S.A, Latin America, etc.... Bullmol has a point, if the pictures were submitted. I can almost assure one will look like a Neo, Boxer, APBT, Presa, Bullmastiff, etc.... There are many who breed to a certain type, but it will take a few more years for the Corso to settle.
I know MOST breeders of Corsos out there are very inconsistent! However, as I stated in my previous post, there ARE some lines that breed true and any of the dogs that are line bred will very much breed true. My female comes from Alaric lines and I have seen her previous generations. I have pics of her predecessors for over 6 generations with pics of littermates, etc. And you can MOST DEFINATELY tell they are from the same (Alaric) lines. But the truth is that most breeders out there don't have direction and just put any two dogs together, thus the inconsistency till this day. Also, it should be mentioned that the first Corso standard was drafted only 20 years ago, and there still are some discrepancies as to which standard is the correct one. Until that is resolved, there will be much inconsistency! ALV
I agree, The Alaric lines was founded by Mike Sottile Sr, and his son Mike Sottile Jr.. I am glad to see that you see the consistency that I have seen in their lines. Many have said the opposite.
bulmol regarding this - [blockquote]I mean the "type" for the corso is not set[/blockquote] does it not have to do with some people, just breeding any dog they can get there hands on? In sweden fx the corso is a scandal. there dogs have a lot of white everywhere, rottweilerbodys with short bag and non athletic what so ever, and faces like boxers. But in poland, russia, italy, tjekkien, spain and a lot of other countrys you find that most of the dogs looks the same. Very little white(only little on the cheast and maby the tip off one toe), beautifull long powerfull bodys, athletic dogs with correct heads. Not all are undershot and some have a little more nose than others, but the heads are still very much typed. not boxerfaces Im no expert, I only have 5 years experience with this breed, but I have had the chance to listen to many off the old breeders, when they explain about the breed. And I travel a lot around in Europa, to visit kennels and dogshows, to se as many cane corso as possible. I think the difference in the corso look comes from bad breeders, with no concience(I cant spell that one, but it means, when you dont care about the outcome) regarding breeding perfect dogs The strange thing about the cane corso is, that the more I learn regarding these dogs, the less I feel I know. New information keeps comming up how many original corso lines are there, and what are they called? And how many people(breeders) was involved in building up the breed again ? Which line is the most original one? many questions that I hope someone will answer :)
Bullmol: Do you have information on the Alaric lines and their foundations? I'd love to get some information on that!? Thanks, ALV
I´m really happy to found this topic.Cane corso and rottweiler are my two best breeds and I cannot decide what to take(in my choice is also german shepherds beacuse I hear that he is really crazy for ball,that rottweiler and cane corso have really low prey drive....but I like rottie and cane corso more)! I want a dog who will be natural strong protective of his family(me) and home,loyal and really intelligente! Thenk,I want a dog who will has big prey drive(but also fight and defense)-so that he will be crazy for ball,tugs etc. I don´t want dog who will barking on everything,actually I want a dog who wil, bark average! So what breed should I take? I know almost all of You will have diferent opinions but I want to You experience and recommendation? Thank You alot and sorry for my english,Vedran
Corsi should have a lot of prey drive. They are somewhat huntingdogs first and foremost. Not saying that all Corsis do have a lot of prey drive thought. I've seen quiet a few that had none. I guess it's just how some breeders roll. Not alot of Corsi breeders breed for working apt as much as looks.
Well,I can get cane corso from 100% really good italian bloodline(not american)....Del rosso malpelo,dei dauni,del dyrium,di casa cesaro...all the best(mainly for show,but I think if I choose right puppy that should be really good in character-protective,high prey drive)?What´s Your opinion? Are Your cane corso(s) crazy for ball,tugs and plays like that?
Does this dog enjoy the tug? I know these links have been put here a bunch of times, but I think they are very relevant to the discussion at hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhpXZtuCJ8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0DQ0-qdMOo&feature=related ALV
So if I get it correctly...the both breed are quite similarly,both have strong defense and prey drive,very protective of it´s family,crazy for ball,tug etc. And if I can get these two breeds from good line(in character)both of breed will be what I expecting? There is also in my choice german shepherd...I know that german shepherd and rottweiler(or cane corso) are completly different worlds but I think they have pretty same reactions,drives(ok,GSD has stronger prey drive and lesser defense drive,treritorial and other I think are same if train properly)?Can You tell me Your opinion(why to get rottweiler or cane corso(no matter what of these two)and no german shepherd,which is the diffrences....I reading a lot that german shepherd are more intelligent,much faster,learn quicker....what You think)?
A German Shepherd needs alot? more mental stimulation than a Corso or a Rottie. They are more energetic.
Corsos and Rotties are very different!! Similarities in looks?? A corso that looks like a rottie is not a true corso. http://www.planfood.com/saxellum/uk/index.htm Renzo's corsos both show and work, his main stud Boris was a true example of a corso! Notice how his dogs don't look like Rott or boxer, bullmastiff or even neo. They can only be corsos.
a cane corso is as easy to train, as the german shepard. But the corso is a better worker(after my oppinion), because it is braver and much tuffer, when the situation needs it. They are eager to please, and will do anything to make the owner happy, and thats what makes they so trainable. Especially the females are excellent working dogs, no matter what kind of work, you want them to do.
Wolf can you post pics of the difference in am vs. italian. I tried to look up the milan exhibition but no pics came up.