[quote1263290273=Drazhar] [quote1263273605=ant2010] [quote1263202177=Drazhar] [quote1263196552=ant2010] dont talk so F*****IN stupid. so youm tellimg me that a presa is the best guarding dog? i dont think so, they have to be trained to be a guard dog, thats what i was stating. they dont have a NATURAL guarding instinct such as a caucasian shepard and that is a fact. thats the trouble with you americans, think you know it all, you just f****N idiots. have you been watching the uk big brother? with that plonker stephen baldwin? what a great example of an american? i dont think so what a twat. i know what a good presa is, the uk actually have some of the best lines. most presa kennels in america are crosses. what example would you give me of a good presa breeding kennel? let me guess sanders kennels? what a joke, they breed mutts. but dont get me wrong some do look nice, but i can bet those nice dogs are just purely accidental. that video is a very weak example of a presa. its head looks nothing like a presa. theres a few people on this forum who are puppy millers, and dog killers and they know who they are! [/quote1263196552] lol what a damn fool you are! my presa has not had 1 second of training and is pretty damn protective especially of my fiancee.. i also remember my dog been taken away from me for 10 days on a rabies watch after he took down a trespasser at the age of 6 months old.. he is protective of me but very protective of my Fiancee and children and has outstanding prey drive when it comes to over animals.. [/quote1263202177] my presa was exactly the same, very good always protective on the lead and with my children. i was just stating that the caucasian ovcharka, had a better natural guarding instinct. start reading the posts better then replying [/quote1263273605] i read exactly what you said! [blockquote] so youm tellimg me that a presa is the best guarding dog? i dont think so, they have to be trained to be a guard dog[/blockquote] number 1 i never said it was the BEST natural guardian, number 2.. you contradicted your self by saying that they have to be trained to be a guard dog, then saying yours was protective without training.. and oh.. my dog is protective on and off the leash.. no one was even home when he took that guy down for trespassing.. he was protecting his land. just do 1 of 2 things, admit your clueless and never owned a presa so have no idea what your talking about, or number 2! just keep silent.. dont say anything else and just Move on.. [/quote1263290273] you're the type of person that makes these forums bad. you give your opinion on everything, but dont listen to what others have to say. you're the childish one to keep replying and trying to escalate things into an arguement. you're going to be the one who has their dog put down for being stupid with it. you're the one who will give the presa a bad name. what a joke you are. i am responsible with my animals, not someone who finds it great that my dog would attack a person. do you realise that if he had managed to kill the bloke the dog would have been destroyed and you would have been going to jail. lol. and you say you know your dogs.