Frank, The point was not to have people get a dogzilla... the point of it is.. is to have at your disposal WHAT EVER may be needed to keep yourself safe. If you're having issues with loose dogs harassing you, you should have a dog that is capable of defending itself AND you from them, and use a walking stick whether you need it or not :wink: . If your child is having troubles with bullies or possibilities of being stolen, some form of martial arts training would at-least give them a fighting chance at making it through the confrontation. If your spouse is being harassed by men on her nightly walk, walk with them, and make the harassers UNDERSTAND why it is a bad idea to continue it, get them a cell phone and pepper spray and a taser. These things do work :wink: :twisted: :wink: Mike