• [quote1292173087=Vasquinho] Thanks for the input igmuska. Could you elaborate what you mean with "they are not a push button breed" and "very civil, not too forgiving". My english is good, but not that good ;). [/quote1292173087] As said, The push button comment is about the ability to do what you command under pressure. The German Shepherd is a good general example of a dog that does what is told (like "outing" or releasing its bite on the "bad guy"). The Caucasian Ovcharka is an example of a dog that believes it knows what is best, and often does not listen right away if at all. Some say this means they are harder to control. A civil dog is defined by how serious to takes its job. This has levels, and is difficult to explain. This is a dog that takes its job seriously and will not tolerate foolish behavior or mistakes from strangers. For instance, a drunk person may be "harmless" but a very civil dog might not tolerate the person's odd behavior, wild mannerisms, and loud, blurting voice. This is not about control, but about the willingness to bite. You can have a very controllable dog that is civil, but this dog will react quicker and more serious than a less civil dog. The modern use of the term is pertaining to "civil work" or agitation and bite work without equipment or with hidden equipment. A civil dog is usually quite defensive. This kind of dog is also less tolerant of a "bad guy's" presence once he has made his intentions known. Though good handling and obedience can make this possible. A less forgiving dog has nothing to do with memory, just tolerance of odd behavior or mishandling. This is what the dog deems acceptable behavior from strangers and what it will tolerate. A forgiving dog with a high threshold will take a lot of "pushing" to bite from a potential threat or bad handling. Less forgiving dogs need more work, better handling, and heavy socialization to deal with foolish behavior from strangers. A less forgiving dog does not do well with a novice handler. Sometimes a mistake on the handler's part such as an unfair or too hard a correction can result in a redirected bite. This is also magnified in breeds known for handler/human rank issues. Let me know if you have any more questions.