[quote=Meriam]Is it not easy to give advices and opinions on a forum without really knowing person or situations - on own assumptions? Good and big words, but they do miss their target. 8)[/quote] When you finally end up in court after your male dog mauls or kills someone, the jury will only have the facts stated, just as we have here. I am certain you don't like hearling an honest apprasal of the facts that you have presented. You have been give good advice by JackBull. I do hope you take his advice and get help for your dogs. Good luck with your dogs.