[quote="Platz"]Stacey - I didn't ask, "about "dealing" with a dog in public" as an open question for discussion. But, your ego once again over rode your reading comprehension. I asked a very specific question to the OP about her dog: [quote=Platz]Meriam - Now going forward you know for a fact that you can not physically control that male dog when it goes into defence mode. So how are you going to deal with him in public now?[/quote] Not surprisingly, you try to hi-jack the thread and make it about yourself. Civily yours, Platz :wink:[/quote] Then conduct private communications privately if they aren't for group discussion. Sorry to steal your thunder, but the needs of the owner outweigh your soapbox chastizing others that they can't handle their dogs/shouldn't own these breeds. Since you are newly self appointed advisor to the LGD breeds, the technique is a good one to keep in mind.