[quote="sodapop1124"]bradly [blockquote]The Italians have determined what they want for thier breed. I respect that. End of story.[/blockquote] sorry bradly boy but an across the board generalizing statement that all italians breed mastini like that overdone "type" as pictured, that of course you prefer...is not correct...[/quote] Take a look at S.A.M.N. and E.N.C.I. champions and then get back to me on that.