[quote1270935242=bigdog322] I see more and more of LGD's needing to be placed in shelters and foster homes because of lack of experience on new owners parts [/quote1270935242] Thank you for bringing this up rich. I have also noticed this trend. I have also noticed a lot of these hybrid types of lgd crosses based the stupid idea of making a new and superior or magical new type of lgd looking dog with out any knowledge of the breeds characteristics and why they should NOT be crossed.