Fair enough. But levi was bred by someone else right? I'm just making the point that maybe if you saw the neo that was used to produce levi's bloodline you might not have used it yourself ( I feel pretty confident you wouldn't have), so I wonder if maybe you are too strict in some departments? Aussies will cross straight up show dogs into a working dog, show dogs that have a million things wrong with them, but the work sorts the winners from the losers and in the end you can't argue with the serious working dogs being produced.