[quote=Astibus]This position would basically translate into a group version of kennel blindness, if you ask me.[/quote] You are right on Dan. However, I do believe to some extent that there is a certainl destructive level of group think occurring in most of the popular breeds. A quick google search returned these 8 traits of group think. Members, see if you observe these behaviors in your group of club: 1. Illusion of Invulnerability: Members ignore obvious danger, take extreme risk, and are overly optimistic. 2. Collective Rationalization: Members discredit and explain away warning contrary to group thinking. 3. Illusion of Morality: Members believe their decisions are morally correct, ignoring the ethical consequences of their decisions. 4. Excessive Stereotyping:The group constructs negative sterotypes of rivals outside the group. 5. Pressure for Conformity: Members pressure any in the group who express arguments against the group's stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, viewing such opposition as disloyalty. 6. Self-Censorship: Members withhold their dissenting views and counter-arguments. 7. Illusion of Unanimity: Members perceive falsely that everyone agrees with the group's decision; silence is seen as consent. 8. Mindguards: Some members appoint themselves to the role of protecting the group from adverse information that might threaten group complacency. I could take each of those 8 points and apply them to the Neo, CO, CAO and others quite easily. Even the author's own attitude shows a certain level of bias as you pointed out.[quote="astibus"] Actually, a condescending attitude towards "so-called pet breeders" could just as well be interpreted as a form of kennel blindness. ;)[/quote] [quote=astibus]...if we were talking about livestock breeding instead of dog breeding, we wouldn't even have this discussion. ;)[/quote]Not so sure about this because I have heard that it can get pretty touchy in the livestock world too but I have no first hand knowledge of it. Thanks again