Sbates: I did not mean you! You merely criticized him and provided an expert's opinion on the subject. I think you did the right thing!! However, there are a lot of people that trash him! I could really care less about Cesar Milan and any other trainer! I think the problem is that people humanize dogs too much. I have a Corso, among other dogs, that has been trained extensively using positive reinforcement. We have competed on several occasions and placed among the top 3 consistently since she was a puppy. She is also a CGC. We trained using only positive reinforcement. However, I must truly say that she was much "sharper" before I started watching his show. I have applied his philosophy to the way we handle our dogs at home and it has made a world of difference!!! Particularly with our 14 year old male lab who was a "troublemaker." In all honesty, sometimes his methods might seem harsh but hey..... sometimes a spank on a kid's behind is looked upon as being harsh!! That is why so many kids are so problematic in the world today. No discipline!! Also, I don't see anything wrong with his methods of exercise, discipline and affection. In all honesty, have you seen how some "world renowned" trainers in Sch., FR, and even obedience use the choke chain and the E-collars to "modify" a problematic dog's behavior? I would rather use a treadmill until my dog gives in than submit them to the extreme corrections some trainers use with prong and E-collars. Also, I think his pack of rotts, pits, ambulls, living in such harmony is quite a feat. I would challenge anybody else to show me a pack like Cesar's. Regardless, I'd like to see other's inputs here as well!! Best, ALV ps. thanks for the articles!