[quote1274325930=Igmuska] I was referring to your "size" statement. I did not say you said it was a Presa, read again. I was doubting ANY real Presa in this dog. About as much real Corso is in a lot of American Corsi. [/quote1274325930] yeah i know the headsize is not "absolutely" related to a breed. i have seen ddb with quite small heads and some others with huge heads. so maybe there isn´t presa at all in this dog. anyway my first thought was "presa x dogue de bordeaux" and my second thought was "small head" for this cross. great variation in these so-called "american alaunts" but also no surprise since they are bandogs with a different make-up depending on the breeder. i still have this dog in my mind. it is one of donalds dogs.