Irish Staffie

Anybody breeding the Irish Staffordshire in the US?

Its looks like the same argument: APBT-American Staffordshire. Dogo Canario- Presa Canario. The latter, the dust is clearing alittle bit for me. Black coat (presa) more working dog . Depending who you talk to. Dogo (Show type). Almost the same dog. The APBT, there are many types within the breed. Some American Pits are registered with AKC as AMStaffies.

Hmmm, I'm of the opinion that a "proper" Pit Bull is from gamebred stock - not the AKC American Staff stuff. Even SOME of the UKC dogs are suspect. You have to know the bloolines. American Dog Breeders Association (ADBA) generally - at least some time ago - was much better in this regard. The working Bulldog is a bit tricky to get hold of due to the nature of their "work" and not many people wish to go into that world. I did and I was truly fascinated with the pup I picked up. Kept him purely as a pet and he was phenomenal. Not worth a wet sock as a guard dog (I loved him just the same), but he was as loveable and giving as the Sun is large. And, obviously, he was Hell on four legs to large, adult dogs or any dog that showed any aggression. I miss him much. As to yout request for an Irish "Bull Terrier" is concerned I strongly believe the original Colby dogs - at least the smaller strains of them are what you're looking for. Keep in mind they are usually gamebred and thusly a large percentage will tend to be very dog aggressive.

Thanks for the info. Although Iam not considering this breed at the moment. I was just curious. There are so many sides to this dog or dogs. Its so hard to know about some breeds. Again Thanks! :D

[quote=triff]irish staffs are not what there made out to be in the uk, they are just poor relatives of the english version bought mainly by macho kids trying to impress each other. they are just a new fad i dont even bekieve them to be different from the english dogs just poor versions. might be different in ireland from what i see[/quote] Are they really "poor"? They "have legs on them" and look closer to Pit Bulls than StaffBulls do - which is what the dog should look like if one were to breed them for their original purpose. The Dudley Terrier and Irish strain of Staff Bull Terrier are very balanced-looking dogs. It's difficult to maintain the "gameness" trait, but perhaps the dogs could be utilized as farm dogs for hogs or used to hunt feral and wild pigs. Either usage would create spectacular strains that SHOULD replace the AKC-standard imho. A dog has to be able to run and move or it will be killed. Legs and agility are good. No matter how powerful a 40 lb dog is it will NEVER be able to "anchor" a 400 + lb hog. As for who purchases the dogs is concerned it matters little - except for continuity of proper breeding, perhaps. If they are "rowdies", so be it. If they purchase the dog to "compensate", that's fine. I'm afflicted by neither conditions. I simply like the Bulldog types that were specialized in Great Britain & were imported into North America. Just my two cents.