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definition of bandogge and bully

cawcazn, I see where you're going with this and you're wrong on a lot of different levels.
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    • bullly: Originally a result of crossing the APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, Bullmastiff, Dogue de Bordeaux, English Bulldog, Neapolitan Mastiff and various bandogges with the aim of developing a larger and heavier Pit Bull, bandogge: The widely accepted recipe for an American Bandog is usually 50% American Pit Bull Terrier and 50% Neapolitan Mastiff, although some breeders use other mastiffs as well, like the English Mastiffs, Bullmastiffs, Cane Corsos, Rottweilers, Japanese Tosas, American Bulldogs, Brazilian Filas and so on, as well as English Bullterriers, American Staffordhires, Irish Staffies and others for the bull-n-terrier part of the equation.
      • cawcazn, I see where you're going with this and you're wrong on a lot of different levels.
        • yeah, i just wanted to point out the similiarites. they are different, but you can make a "bully" that is like a bandogge, or a bandogge that is like a bully
          • It isn't really just the "breeds" that produce the product. It is the selective pressures for specific traits of interest.
            • [quote1309182599=cawkazn] bullly: Originally a result of crossing the APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, Bullmastiff, Dogue de Bordeaux, English Bulldog, Neapolitan Mastiff and various bandogges with the aim of developing a larger and heavier Pit Bull, bandogge: The widely accepted recipe for an American Bandog is usually 50% American Pit Bull Terrier and 50% Neapolitan Mastiff, although some breeders use other mastiffs as well, like the English Mastiffs, Bullmastiffs, Cane Corsos, Rottweilers, Japanese Tosas, American Bulldogs, Brazilian Filas and so on, as well as English Bullterriers, American Staffordhires, Irish Staffies and others for the bull-n-terrier part of the equation. [/quote1309182599] Does anyone know of crosses between APBT x LGD? ...or LGD x some of the breed above mentioned?
              • a mutt.
                • LMFAO @ Igmuska. Thanks for the giggle this morning... Much Needed.
                  • Canisdirus There are many pictures in the CAO gallery of dogs mixed with various bullies and mastiffs. You just have to be able to pick them out ;-)
                    • [quote1309215610=CANISDIRUS] [quote1309182599=cawkazn] bullly: Originally a result of crossing the APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, Bullmastiff, Dogue de Bordeaux, English Bulldog, Neapolitan Mastiff and various bandogges with the aim of developing a larger and heavier Pit Bull, bandogge: The widely accepted recipe for an American Bandog is usually 50% American Pit Bull Terrier and 50% Neapolitan Mastiff, although some breeders use other mastiffs as well, like the English Mastiffs, Bullmastiffs, Cane Corsos, Rottweilers, Japanese Tosas, American Bulldogs, Brazilian Filas and so on, as well as English Bullterriers, American Staffordhires, Irish Staffies and others for the bull-n-terrier part of the equation. [/quote1309182599] Does anyone know of crosses between APBT x LGD? ...or LGD x some of the breed above mentioned? [/quote1309215610] here we go. ;) CAO x apbt
                      • looks like a nice dog, its so amazing what can be done with dog breeding and how many mixes and matches can be made.
                        • [quote1309267115=Igmuska] a mutt. [/quote1309267115] [u]Also bandogge and bully are a mutt![/u] I pose the question because in the past the cross are been made between different types of dogs. In Italy for example we have the "Straviere" (Cane Corso x Levriero Italiano) uniting the speed of force, "Mezzosangue" (Cane Corso x Segugio) acquired remarkable aptitude for research and tenacity, "Mezzocorso" (Cane Corso x Pastore Abruzzese) was more versatile because it also improved the qualities of the guardian, a cattleman, shepherd and defender. The Dogo Argentino is a mix of many types of dogs, the Pittbull is a mix of molossus and terriers, i think if the cross molossus x molossus, shepherd x shepherd or terrier x terrier does not lead to real improvements in litter.
                          • Yes, they are. Depends on what you are trying to do. Those crosses you mention often are used as outcrosses to a parent breed, not to be perpetuated as the purpose of the modern breeding of bullies or bandogges. I would call a CAO x bully breed a fighting dog, which is the reason for its creation. Some lines of CAO are steadily based upon that cross. Therefore, this is a combat dog, often used to enhance the fighting abilities. This is also an old world, traditional version of a bandogge (as are all of the other crosses you mentioned). If it makes you feel better, you can call it whatever mix of both names you desire.
                            • I was just curious as to how these intersections were also only occurred by chance, as the modern breeding of bullies or bandogges i think.
                              • I think there is more to it than just chance, but there is nothing wrong with being curious. :) Most of this was done with purpose.
                                • Nowadays most of the crosses has unfortunately made ​​dialing to improve the dogs in the fighting, hunting and grazing are not more like a time and if there are, there are only in remote places. But do not remove the fact that crosses are made by dog owners, breeders (to add new bloodlines to a race) or private by accident or desired, in another post i heard a wonderful cross between and Doberman Dogue de bordeuax, also the dog in the above picture is very beautiful. .
                                  • [quote1309352879=Crnosrce1] Canisdirus There are many pictures in the CAO gallery of dogs mixed with various bullies and mastiffs. You just have to be able to pick them out ;-) [/quote1309352879] ...4800 files :O, is very very hard to pick them out !teeth
                                    • obviously a bully is not a bandogge. thats not what im trying to say at all. to look at it that way is very simple minded
                                      • While it's true bully's have bulldog and mastiff heritage, they aren't Bandogs. Bandogs have always been bred as working dogs first and foremost. Bully's aren't typically working dogs. I have seen one working bully but he was an exception. I've even had bully breeders get Bandogs from me to protect their bullys from thieves. It's not much of a guard dog if adults can be stolen. Calling a bully a bandog is like calling a staffordshire bull terrier a pitbull. They both have bull and terrier blood but, selection has made them very different dogs. A bandog must be a working dog to be a true bandog. A mastiff and bulldog bred only for show may as well be called a bandoodle.
                                        • well aware of all that never said a bully is a bandogge
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