Chris - 8) :wink: Yes, we do tend to mess with each other, welcome to the club :lol: Two Rottys with the correct & proper temperment, one trained in PP one in Shutzhund how would thery differ? I believe the PP Rotty would be more "On" all the time. Which in Rottweilers might be a royal P.I.A. to own. Rottys are always "On" to a point anyway, watching the area for threats, like that man that steals our Garbage every Monday morning :roll: :lol: That trait of looking for threats makes Focus Heeling a challenge when working a Rottweiler in Shutzhund. In thier mind they don't need to watch you as the heel , they need to be watching OUT for danger to protect you.