thanks a lot guys puppies will be born somewhere near december - january ;) i'll surely post their pics when they take birth! and himalayan mastiffs, litter won't be huge on average.. although i have personally seen litters carrying around 8 puppies.. in teddy's litter, only 2 puppies were born.. one is teddy and the other one was a female. in leola's litter, 3 puppies were born.. 2 males and a female(leola)! i'll be getting a puppy born to atlas, leola's brother who is already over 32" now! he is 10 months old!! his father was huge and was a superb guardian!! so was his maternal uncle!! huge head, great height!! we'll see how he would produce ;)