[quote=BCofJurai] Carol, not to be rude but whould you sell one of your Frenchie's to someone that told you flat out they wanted to cross the dog they got from you with a Patterdale terrier? You know that people are doing this now right?[/quote] Nope. I might respect their rights to breed as they choose, if they're doing so for good reason, but I respect my right to not allow anyone to do so with a dog of my breeding even more. I'm trying to acheive my goals within the breed by using less popular lines with more emphasis on temperment, longevity and intelligence, as opposed to exageratedly short faced conformation and constrained body length. I had heard about the Frenchie/Patterdale cross, but can't conceive of what they're trying to acheive with it, and no one seems to be able to give me a serious answer that sounds logical. Carol