[quote=buldog]OH, HELL YES!!!!! Where are these people at in michigan, as i make a weekend trip up to lansing every month to visit friends, and id LOVE to come see the ranch and talk with the farmers, and possibly get this ball rolling, NOW!!! Mike[/quote] This farmer is in Willis, Michigan -I-94 exit 187 (Rawsonville Road) head south for about 8 miles. Let me know when your next trip is planned.