[quote1325986216=cawkazn] [quote1325908295=davidfitness83] That right there is the truth, in most cases the display of toughness is merely an attempt to prevent a fight from happening. Some Dogs are more vocal than others but a true brawler will go for a grab and hold. [/quote1325908295] obviously a dog cant bark when they have a hold. [/quote1325986216] They can growl ;) play tug of war with your dog and you can hear it growl while biting. That is exactly what I meant. The barkers and tough sounded are insecure dogs lacking social skills and act like that because they want the other dog to Retrieve. A confident dog will not engage a puppy or a submissive dog for no reason. Watch the llantas champion video on YouTube, he is a pit champion and they show him playing with a puppy ;)