[QUOTE]bull terrier was used in the dogo also.[/quote] Good point. Every where it seems the EBT was THE bull terrier that was being put to work, EXCEPT for the united states who were working away on their own strain. Only very recently like in the 1980s even 90s did the apbt start replacing the ebt as the working bull terrier around the world. I mean this is what all signs point to, it's just not what the breed encyclopedias say. [QUOTE]hey tonedog, besides the Great Dane, I sometimes think of crossing my male with a weimaraner, it would give leg, and a good nose, and also keep the blue color. [/QUOTE] Would offer a lot, generally pretty smart dogs, versatile hunters in their own right and a bit of bull is just what they need to harden them up. I'd like such a cross a lot I think. Would make a more versatile and suitable dog for outdoor wilderness shenanigans than a dane x IMO, although that could be good too, I just think the weim cross would be more enthusiastic and energetic and a good deal brighter. You'd be looking at more of a curr type as opposed to a bandog type, actually a fair bit like me and castanha's dogs.