No worries Mike, I'm not that sensitive, :wink: and my comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone specific. I was just trying to save a legitimate topic and question from deteriorating (as I have seen so many other threads do). Well said DAN!!! I agree wholly with you. All LGDs should have a sharp temperment, but not game. This also makes me question "testing" that is done in countries around the world with other LGDs. I have heard of Sar tests and believe those to be closest to the dogs actual function. 8)