where did i bragg about the sar killing a apbt i mentioned it so people would stop underestimating the sar and other lgds and working lgds are game they have to be to fight of predators they just cant walk away when it gets hot or ther will be loads of dead sheep and these poor farmers as you say have massive dogs like kangal 150 and up in weight and like i said before i only mentioned it because people think the apbt are unbeatable dont get me wrong they are great at fighting but not unbeatable and also put a apbt is guarding its flock then you will see if a lgd is game