A fencewalker, if i am not mistaken, is a person, who kumps from forum to forum, or post to post, and just writes to se themselves have an opinion or a voice... ALSO, the sarplaninac was not a dog designed for IN THE PIT COMBAT, it was designed for work as a LIVESTOCK GUARDING DOG, and had to WORK IN PACKS with OTHER DOGS... WHere on gods green earth would a poor shepherd in the top of a mointain back in serbia or macedonia or italy or russia, want to have a dog, who would destroy all of his other dogs, when 1 dog cannot protect against an ENTIRE PACK OF WOLVES?? They could not afford to keep buying or trading for new dogs if their "champion" keeps killing them, now can they?? Did they want their dogs to be sissies, hell no, but did they want them to go around, provoking fights and killing their pack members, again hell no, they wanted them to NOT do or be these above mentioned things, and to be ballanced, and save their energy for when the time arrived, and then ATTACK like something out of a stephen king novel, or as i like to call it, cujo's nightmare!!! These dogs, Shars, Cos, Caos, Sylvan, Grt Pyr, Kangal.... etc... Should not be fought in the pit, period!!! Its done only for money, and as for the "traditional testing", BS, again, how could a dog, trained to attack other dogs, be used in a pack?? I understand that a fight between 2 males will figure out who is the bigger and stronger male, but bigger isnt always better, and especially against wolves, in order to defeat a wolf in combat, a dog MUST be QUICK enough to not get bitten... So even if its a 250lbs, no fat cao (hypothetical ofcourse), How can it possibly be fast enough not to get its throat ripped out by the wolf?? And god forbid a bear come along, those Big dogs r no where near fast enough to dodge their paws and claws and jaws... Thats a big meal for that bear, or pack of wolves... My point is, in order for an lgd to be completly effective, it must be balanced, and be able to work in harmony in a pack with other dogs, to do just that, protect the livestock. NOW, it is also known, that the other dogs in the pack dont usually have to be lgd's, just hav to have enough testicular fortitude to confront and hold a wolf long enough for the bigger and much nastier and better fighting lgd to come in and finish the wolf off.. Now i know your gonna say im contradicting myself, but im not. LGD's in a pack, in the traditional and old ways, r going by instinct, and r tolerating the presence of the other dogs in the pack... FIGHTING LGDS r trained to FIGHT ANY DOG around them, so how can a TRAINED FIGHTING LGD CHAMPION work as a traditional and effective lgd?? It cant..... No shepherd, as i said it earlier, would want nor would he tolerate a dog who kept killing his other, and sometimes better, dogs... its a waste of time for him to feed him.......