@tonedog 

i might be a bit of an LGD fanboy over here, but saying that LGD's are not atlethic or agile is pure nonesens 

don't look at dogshow breeders or most of the LGD pets. They are to big and to heavy.

all aborigional LGD's are functional in form and health

and ARE one of the most atlethic dogs around ! You just need to look for them in the right place.

kind regards