A BYB in my book would be my sister in law- who got an asschewing from me over this- Gets a Mal puppy. Cute little guy, as cute as a mal puppy can be. No papers, yet he comes from "Belgian" lines. She asks me about breeding him. I say no papers, he's gonna sit in the back yard with no training. If I were looking for one of that breed I would wasn't Sch. trained parents. Hmm, she didn't know what that was. Nice. Yet she somehow though she could stud him out. A BYB is someone who doesn't know a lot about their chosen breed. They usually don't care either. They don't care where their pups end up, and surely don't consider trying to take them back if there is a problem. They don't care if they ever hear from their buyers again. They probably wouldn't remember them anyway cause they probably only had a litter to teach their little brats about the life cycle. :evil: