Alright, to break the ice, early civilizations such as the Sumerian’s and Babylonian’s believed in “intelligent design”, as indeed all civilizations and religions taught and teach. This is not a new adage. To declare that we (humans) are the only spiritual entities, or at least the supreme entities (which is in effect what antitheism declares absolutely) is in my opinion a nonsense and those who argue for such theories delude only themselves. How can we possibly know what intelligence’s or entities exist? To deny their existence out of hand is in effect irresponsible in my opinion. Gary, you asked for our opinions, or our thoughts, this is mine, without going into page after page after page of hypothetical theories, (and I'm not implying that there is a God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost), anything else other than “intelligent design” is in my opinion, illogical. Regards, Denno.