Lee - You keep talking about your "preformance" test. I'LL ask you a 2nd time:"I've took the time top visit our website. I can't seem to fid any information on all this performance testing to keep refereing to. What exactly do you do to test these dogs? " You dismisss working trials, obedience trials, shutzhund etc. etc. as meaningless "games" & "paper scores". Seems that if one posts, "How ethical is it to not address the questions presented to you " they should walk the walk themselfs. :D