thanks! established in what sense? this breed has established itself since 1000's of years.. and we won;t try to change anything.. we don't bother about things like consistency in type and etc.. they are true and tremendous guard dogs! that is how they are established.. and even in type, it is not diverse if not as consistent as western breeds. for people care very less about physical consistency they bother only about physical ability and fitness! .. i encourage diversity and breadth in gene pool! hope gene pool doesn't get affected.. but still, consistency will be taken into consideration in every breeding. no one wants a dog that looks too different.. they want a dog that looks like gaddi! so, that is how it is :) by the way i forgot to mention! gaddi mastifs are also registered as tibetan mastiffs and even shown by that name.. gaddi mastiffs defeat many tibetan mastiffs in dog shows which get bred for shows too! they have even won CC's when they were competing with dogs bred by saras tibetan mastiffs! saras tibetan mastiffs are often subjected to mockery in punjab.