I agree with tiago, the notion of the WEB being a breed, let alone a pure one at that is a pipe dream. Its a mix of anything and everything that could and would work that the farmers had access too. Be it a cross of apbt,ab,boxers, rotties, BMC, coon hounds, which isnt a bad thing at all, they r healthy hard working dogs who dont have an ounce of quit in em. They, nor the AB, are true lgd. They wont hesitate to catch and kill coyotes wild canids, big cats or even wolves, but they dont bond to the livestock they are "guarding" like say a Kangal or Cao. They kill because its something thats not supposed to be there, but theyd also not hesitate to kill a cow or sheep for pissing it off. And, i have to point out, these dogs were used in Pairs, usualy male and female, and would be sent upon an entire pack of wild dogs or canids, and they were taught to attack the alpha's, and destroy them, hence taking away the will to fight and kill from the rest of the pack. These dogs first and foremost should NOT be family pets, but working monsters who will do anything you ask of them, just to get their heads petted. Mike