[quote1274308496=Presadam] This is "Tiger Guard's Romethius" aka "Romeo" He was 6 yrs old last year. I knew this dog as a puppy, and went round and round with his owner about what he was. She was sold a "presa canario". Knowing Tim had both pseudopresas and DDB's, I told her he was a mix. She fought tooth and nail that I was wrong. She recently referred to him as a "non standard presa" :roll: when she gave him to a local shelter... But as I said, he was born 6 yrs ago, and sold as a presa...He's a beautiful DOG, but NOT a presa! [/quote1274308496] yeah, could be a presa x dogue de bordeaux, although the head is not really big.