exaclty! so why the big fuss about pure breds/inbreeding limiting the gene pool etc. I think it was either chimerakennels or midgardmastiffs on here way back in the day that was a big proponent of hybrid vigor.

The only way to fix the dobe is to paper hang.

A dobe cross the intrigued me was the dino dog. 

https://doberman-chat.com/threads/a-doberman-pit-bull-mix.2907/