I think this guy could realistically get away with a bullmastiff or english mastiff or whatever. This mentality that they're incapable of doing this or that is really the reason the breeds are in a bad way. We all get mad at the show breeders for ruining breeds, and then we're like "oh no, don't take a bullmastiff hiking". Really you guys are the culprits. Take them hiking more, everyone who has a bullmastiff should take it hiking and do as much with it as possible. I know pure bullmastiffs that have worked as boar hunting dogs, basically I think we all need to expect more from dogs and they'll improve. Casual hiking doesn't require the stamina of a rhodesian ridgeback. I think getting a bullmastiff would be a great idea. [QUOTE]1)neo- i love the working class neo but am afraid with the health and weight it woul be to much on that kind of dog. Not athletic or laid back enough for your requirements.[/QUOTE] Wait, neos aren't laid back enough? What do you want them to do? Smoke a bong? The above about bms applies to neos as well, get whatever you want, I'm sure if you raise a neo, em, bm or whatever hiking they'll be able to cope with it.