Mr. Gumercindo Saraiva, manager of the Sampaio Moreira ranch in Cajuru, in the hinterland of São Paulo state, bought his first Filas from Meirelles family in Campinas, around 1920. They were dark brindle and also black. Later on he added to his stock Filas from Guaxupé and Varginha, South of Minas Gerais. His best dog was Thor de Samor, an excellent brindle, with a white collar, very strong, and with sharp temperament. Thor de Samor was the father of the famous solid coal black female Xita do ABC which, became Penta Brazilian Champion (five times champion) owned by Samor Kennel. I was glad to read at page 280 that Mrs. van Damme considers Uruce de Kirimaua with a "pedigri impecable". Uruce is a daughter from Temporal de Kirimaua x Amazona de Água Boa. Temporal belongs to Prof Procópio do Valle who bred excellent black Filas. Mr. Jaime Hernantes, owner of El Regato de Subiria Kennel from Spain, bought Uruce de Kirimaua and bred her to Cacique de Itavuvu ( a son of the Gr. Int. Ch. National ranking winner in 1981 Alferes do Camping de Sorocaba) imported from Brazil by German judge Roswita Ketelhon, who kept two puppies from this litter. The male Aquila del Regato de Subiria won the World Championship of Dortmund in 1991. I wish to point out that Alferes do Camping de Sorocaba, sire of Caramuru de Itavuvu, had the following parents: Sire: Gr. Int. Ch. S.Am. Ch. and of National ranking winner in 1980, Orixá do Kirongosi, and dam Nubia de Samor, both listed in Cafib’s black list... At page 266 you may read that Dartagnan da Zagaia Verde (sired by Gr. Int. Ch. National Ranking Winner in 1981 Alferes do Camping de Sorocaba x Agata da Lagoa do Jaburu) was the first Fila to be introduced in France by Mrs. Ledroux, who also introduced Zagaia Verde bloodline in Spain. French judge Mr. Christian Delmas imported Estrela de Tamuana (sire Destemido do Camping x Tunisia do Rodrigues) born in 1988. Estrela became a champion in France. Fripon da Zagaia Verde, a very important reproducer in Spain, comes from Apache do Planalto Central whose parents were: Impala II do ABC and Uganda do Kirongosi. If Mrs. van Damme could spend some more time in Rio de Janeiro looking at pedigrees, she would find out many other "authentic" Cafib approved Filas coming out from dogs mentioned in her black list. Cacib dos Pampas (Trinity) shows up in a good part of Boa Sorte kennel pedigrees. Ch. Elo da Boa Sorte comes from Orixa II do ABC. Hur dos Pampas, Bororo do ABC, Impala do ABC and Rubi do ABC... Others so called "pure Cafib Filas" as Castor de Tamakavi, was sired by Jacu do ABC x Conchita do Itacolomi, having Apache de Sta. Olimpia, Guaira das Sete Barras (this female bred by João Batista Gomes, Sete Barras Kennel), Parrudo do Guarany and Fronteira do ABC in his pedigree. Apache de Sta Olimpia shows up in both Cafib and CBKC bloodlines such as Jirua de Muqui and Boa Sorte kennels. Together with Duna, a black bitch, he produced Pemba do Kirongosi. We see over and over again ABC bloodline mixed in cafibians pedigrees, but Mrs. van Damme seems not to be aware of this fact. She also seems to ignore the fact that Mr. Peltier de Queiroz was the owner of a dog called Dumas dos Pampas, son of Araribóia, and that Mr. Queiroz used Dumas dos Pampas in his kennel called CAFIBRA producing the dog Idi Amin Dada da Cafibra, grandson of Araribóia Curiously these dogs Dumas dos Pampas and Amim Dada da Cafibra (both of Mr. Queiroz) did not enter in the Cafib black list. Looking at the pedigree of Itamar da Princesa d’Oeste (father of Nagan do Amparo) you will find the famous Balaio da Fazenda Poço Vermelho, son of Antar de Samor which was a son of the legendary solid coal black female Xita do ABC, five times National Champion in Brazil. Mrs. van Damme seems to ignore again the pedigrees and ancestors of her Kennel Los Tres Naranjos, Acaboclado, São Fila Kennel and others in Spain that used and still continue to use descendants of Nagan do Amparo, Castor de Tamakavi and Boa Sorte dogs. The same occurs in Germany with Três Curumins and Fazenda Carolina kennels, both having the same bloodline of Castor de Tamakavi, Balaio da Fazenda Poço Vermelho, Antar de Samor, and Xita do ABC.