[quote=redcoat1102]bottomline is people do not acknowledge his work, yet want to own this breed. **cow droppings** people who thinks they know more than him can try writing a book. idiots who criticize his work and dogs should not own presas, but can try re-creating a breed by themselves so they can determine their own standard[/quote] So you are saying he created the standard... hmm that is why the registry he has his dogs through do not except all his dogs because of them NOT meeting standards. UKC does not RECOGNIZE the white Presa and yet he keeps creating a PRESA with over 20% of white on it! Sorry bud but I love my PRESA'S very much and I am no way shape or form to say I am an expert but I do know my standards and know there are more out there that help to bring this wonderful breed back. Curto just put in his 2 cents.