So can someone please explain the genesis of the APBTxNeo craze? It seems like a good idea, and to have had some success. If it wasn't Swinford that initiated it, then who? And who were some other "bandog" breeders? [quote=pillowpants]Thank you Redeagle. For me, Kage was a once in a lifetime dog. Never went to the vet for anything and he passed in his sleep at 14 1/2. He was rock solid muscle at 118lbs. Loyal, trustworthy. The best friend ever. I got a lot of "he's a mastiff" when we walked. I even got bloodhound a couple of times. :lol:[/quote] :D :D