Gentlemen, At the point where the topic becomes useless and of no educational value to the reader is when I will either lock or delete it. We are nearing that point now. So, stop the insults, name calling and personal finger pointing. Know that the curious reader who may be interested in getting one of your dogs are watching and reading - and thinking. What you write here gives and impression of you so type carefully.... Break - It is time to stop the insults or go do it on another site. Respect our members and keep the personal information out of the public forum. Your program is simply, your program. It is not wrong or right - it is yours. When the conversation starts to detract from the peace and relative tranquility of the site then it becomes my problem - and I will deal with it harshly if my nice appeal for restoration of normalcy is ignored. If your next post is of no educational value about the Bandogs then think twice before wasting your time on the keyboard because it certainly will be expunged from the site.