Lee, It looks to me you have a nice program. I have complimented on it before. You have a nice acreage for the dogs to run, train and socialize. Overall, your program is a productive positive program for ban dogs. Swinford had the original idea and he most likely didn't use Tosa as this was verified by Murray and he would know more than any of us here. I think if Suleyman could be reproduced there would be many buyers but that would probably not come to fruition. I would like to know and maybe Murray knows Suleyman's percentages and can add his knowledge on this legend of a dog. Nevertheless, it looks to me to be one of the best guards of all time. http://www.molossermania.com/brd/b/b001/history.html With all that being said Swinford unfortunately did not get to finish his program and to me looked as if he didn't really get much off the ground but could have done exceptionally well with where he was headed. Whether or not Swinford used Tosa or not should not be that great deal of an issue. If he didn't and most believe he didn't maybe you should concede to the probability that he most likely didn't. If I were you I personally wouldn't use the Swinford name. You are headed in the right direction have some nice pits and have produced some fine specimens of Ban Dogs. You're creating your own brand and don't even know it. Name your dogs Lee Robinson Ban Dog. Or Robinson Ban Dog. Continue creating great dogs and buyers will come find you as they have in the past. Stay away from the squabbling over inane issues and posters and it will validate your program. With all that being said continue on with your program. Maybe take some positive crititism and accolades as well. :)