[quote=Beso]In Natural conditions Caucasian Ovcharkas have not any training. Theirs instict is to provide optimal behaviour. Most Natural CO even do not react on theirs names - actually they have not name - they are dogs and members of Pack (human owner and family members, including sheeps and cows of owner also are members of a Pack). But CO can be trained (some of them). Generally human shephers think that good leader of pack is to be ageins any training - training discussed as lowering leadees natural rank inside pack.[/quote] The quoted post by Beso invokes some very interesting thoughts for me. Especially the last sentence. I was wondering what others think about this statement and hope we can discuss it without talking about people and breeders. Just discuss natural habitat and behavior. Members who own other LGD in natural environment are welcome to chime in on this too.