[quote1263027369=MickWrath] [quote1262998507=ant2010] to be fair i think although presas are lovely dogs, they are a bit stupid. mine used to see birds as threats and would quite happily bark at them all day long. [/quote1262998507] Ive never heard such a BS comment in all my life. Maybe your Presa is stupid, but for you to generalize about a whole breed based on an obviously poor selected dog is just spewing garbage. My Presa is as sharp as his teeth, and I have never owned a smarter breed. He learns faster than many Malinois...and that came from the mouth of someone who trains them for the Costa Rican Military. The basics below were taught all in one day and were retained thereafter. Maybe its just you who cannot teach, because I know the Presa will learn. [youtube=425,344]79jkbPvAjsw[/youtube] [/quote1263027369] why be funny mate and say stupid? at the end of the day i gave my opinion which everyone has their right to, at the end of the day your dog doesnt even look like a pure presa,and whats wrong with his eye? j7 who is a uk breeder has the best irema curto presas in the uk, and winjim has 3 red star dogs. do some research on dogs, im just stating a fact the best guard dog is a caucasian ovcharka. im not putting presas down they are fantastic dogs natural guarding instinct is ok. caucasian ovcharkas natural instinct? excellent.