[html] i haven't read the whole thread (i stopped reading when people started to fight), so i apologize in advance if this question already has been answered earlier. what i would like to know about the presa and the boerboel is, if they do need any training at all in order to protect any area as they should or is this ability present in both breeds (and here i mean properly bred dogs, not show lines or dogs from backyard breeders)? i ask since i have heard both - there are some that say that those breeds guard without training, others say that you not only have to select fitting individuals but that you also have to train them so that they will master the task of guarding an area. [/html]