[quote=cane76]It was impressive to see a giant of the dog world jump 3 feet in the air when the dogs were in the kennels.. [/quote] I've heard of a perticular CO that can jump a 6" fence. :wink: [blockquote] ,imagine what kind of drama that would cause if it were a apbt or presa breeder..The guy who couldnt control the 180 pd co was a joke ,if you cant control your dog you probably have the wrong breed for you...[/blockquote] You got it! I've seen pictures and comments about Pitts that cause a huge uproar, and then the same comments or pictures about a CO or the like and it's perfectly acceptable :? I don't know, but I think the guy got the dog worked up for the camera. With a little footage and a good editor, you can make ANY statement you want. If he truly can't control the dog, then well....