I don't think he still breeds bull arabs? Or for that matter has bred any since 30 plus years ago? Certainly none of the legit lines have had anything to do with him for decades. He attacks bull arabs now and it's because he's trying to compete with them and trick people into buying his non-working BS puppy mill creations like the bullstop and bull enduro. He's basically like "bull arabs are crap now actually, you should get these instead". He was always a puppy miller and scam artist, the bull arab started when he scammed boar doggers into buying his dogs. But boardoggers have a knack for polishing turds into diamonds, they can grab some show dogs and have legit pig dogs as good as anything in the world in no time at all. The pigs and the outback will sort them out, if they're crap they won't be crap for long. They'll either be dead, or they'll have gotten their act together. There's really no alternative option. The ebt x pointer/greyhound combination did incidentally offer good genetic material to work with, so it was a relatively smooth transition from scam to pig dog. Today bull arabs are sick, there's no arguing with the work they're doing every day. They're as proven as any other boar hunting dog on the planet, and IF some sort of silly argument could be had about "best boar dog breed", then they'd definitely immediately be a major player in the thick of the discussion and realistically you couldn't assert anything above them. No credit should be given to mike hodgens though, none whatsoever. As for outcrossing, I would hope outcrossing has been done in all bull arab lines, they'd be deteriorating otherwise. The biggest threat to bull arabs right now is them becoming a "purebreed", and it's knocking on their door and undoubtedly already attacking some strains and ruining them somewhat. Also pretty much all bull arab strains produce mostly bigger dogs these days in the 45-50 kg range. I don't think there's anything sinister behind it, it's just what the work is calling for. Hugo [QUOTE]Bones is doing great Tonedog, keep the pics coming.[/QUOTE] Wm [QUOTE]Nice dog tone. Looks like he will be well rounded[/QUOTE] Thanks guys. Yeah he is well rounded- super fast and athletic, good nose, can't tire him out, deceptively strong and smart too. Really sure footed and hard to knock over for the ddb x. He's got a lot of grip in that pin head as well, lol, can swing him around off the ground during tug of wars. Not easily (for me), he's getting heavy, I think must weigh at least 35 kgs now and possibly closer to 40. Was 30 a couple of months ago. Don't want to give him too much props, he's also pretty annoying and a bit of a d--k, lol.