Thank everyone for replies. I guess one of the first things im learning as i read websites until my eyes hurt, is that there is a lot of arguments between breeders and lovers of the breed. origin, relatives, history, etc what should i look for in a socalled ''good'' breeder and what is a ''good'' CAO in compare with not so good ones. how do i find out. When i would seriously go ''shop around'' where do i find the big, calm, impressive dogs i found in some youtube clips and pictures. thanks again for the discussion, im learning alot alex