What I love about this particular (copied) summary is the qualification of the Majorero blood... That's such a crock. You CANNOT genetically test these "presas" to see what their "majorero quotient" is, nor can you trace most "presas" back to the majorero influence because it occured CENTURIES ago. I know this because I HAVE TRIED. Except of course the few people that are still currently crossing it in. Of course those dogs are readily obvious... Also, the word "presero" has only been coined recently, to ascribe to a certain group of internet tough guy breeders on a certain message BBS, who push the presa as a separate breed, one more working minded, where being in standard type-wise is an insult. However, the few people I have heard of getting their dogs over here, have had trouble with them, either being too much to handle, or not enough. The old time term for presa fanciers is "aficianados" There have been attempts to find middle ground, but when one side wants to pigeonhole everyone with official FCI paperwork (i.e "Dogos") as show breeders, and ridicule efforts to produce dogs that not only work, but also are good representations of the standard, it's kind of hard....and it's a LOT easier to make money when you have an "original" or "Old world, unruined" breed :roll: Pitbull22- Like the post. You have good dogs and bad dogs in both breeds. Unfortunately this breed hasn't gotten tired enough of polarizing itself to the point that it will ruin itself.