Ok, I didn't know how to put this into a topic, so the all encompassing "breeding question" is what you get. I'm trying to figure out if I'm off the track here, or on it. We have had a topic come up recently in the presa world. A breeder bred his stud male twice to two different bitches. In one litter, a dog has come out having epilepsy (no causative factors found per the vet). In the other litter a dog has "severe arthritis" at age 2 (per the owner). Breeder agreed not to breed the two that produced the epilepsy together again, but has made plans to breed the female, and to breed a daughter of the stud. According to the breeder, all dogs have been hip screened via vet prior to breeding. So, the owner of the epilepsy dog, and the owner of the arthritic dog are upset, and feel that the female and the daughter of the stud, shouldn't be bred. That nothing related should be bred until "breeder finds out where the (2 known) health problems are coming from". Parents are asymptomatic, no other progeny reports problems, known grandparents are also asymptomatic. So my question is this... Would you remove asymptomatic parents and siblings from a breeding program based on one puppy each, out of two different litters, having two unrelated health problems? (no other puppies known to have problems, no other relations known to have problems as yet) Can't wait to see where this goes :?