[quote=Leon]About dogs you mentioned, Zhen Shen and Archi, I will not talk about weight as it is hard to estimate correctly that, but concerning height the reality is that Zhen Shen is not higher then 29 inches, in spite of medium size he is however very nice KO. Archi has size 31,5. I am talking after seeing them many times in real with and without coat.[/quote] 29 inches is 73.7cm (not 84cm) and 31.5 inches is 80cm (not 86) 29 inches is a respectable mid height Caucasian, well over Breed Standard minimum. Thanks for the info. ------- Height is accurately measured with an instrument called a wicket and is measured at the shoulder area, not the top of the head!