Size question...?

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I have one male right at 30 inches, his sister is 29 1/2, they are 2 1/2 years old, and their aunt is 29 inches, all at the shoulder. Kat

These dogs are all well over what is preferred today. Buran, 30 inches 160+ lbs(guesstimate) Archi and Zhen Shen, 32 inches and over 200 lbs I don;t remember this dogs name, but he is 40 inches tall and 270 lbs, Perhaps Yelena Levitina will post here, she knows more about that dog than I do, and she also has some very largo CO. Mike

OH! when I saw the name of this thread I thought it had to do with something else...... :oops: :lol:

All are beautiful CO's!

[quote="crnosrce1"] I don;t remember this dogs name, but he is 40 inches tall and 270 lbs, [/quote] http://www.r-risk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1005

Try this for translation http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ I remember there was mention about steroids but was it fact or just wondering, I don`t know

His name is Tajson (pronounce Tyson) son of Basmach.He lives in Ucraine and its said that he was feed only with meat,also most of the dogs from his bloodline are all over 200lbs;

[quote=Wolf]I'm not sure if any "Caucasian Mountain Dogs" are that tall, but Caucasian Shepherds can reach 30 and more inches at the withers, yes. Recent trends demand a smaller dog, but there will always be much taller examples in the breed, just like they've always existed.[/quote] Recent "trends" don't "demand" a smaller dog. The fact is that the Russian breed standard has most recently increased minimum height over that promulagated by the current FCI standard. Some lines do seem to be losing height by the fall of the genetics.

[quote=crnosrce1]These dogs are all well over what is preferred today... Archi and Zhen Shen, 32 inches and over 200 lbs... Mike[/quote] Zhen Shen is no where near 34 inches and 200 lbs.

Can't read what they are saying....but no worries...That freaking monster of a dog is crazy huge!!! and beautiful :D

[quote=EsqCaucasians"][quote="crnosrce1]These dogs are all well over what is preferred today... Archi and Zhen Shen, 32 inches and over 200 lbs... Mike[/quote] Zhen Shen is no where near 34 inches and 200 lbs.[/quote] So, I am to believe that you want me to disbelieve the people who have put their hands on both dogs and told me that Zhen Shen is 84cm and 95 KG and that Archi is 86cm and 100kg?? Because you say so?? I don't think so. Try peddling your crap on to some unsuspecting newbie. We all await for the reinforcements to start circling the wagons again. How are the snow scenting dogs coming? LOL

[quote=crnosrce1"][quote="EsqCaucasians"][quote="crnosrce1]These dogs are all well over what is preferred today... Archi and Zhen Shen, 32 inches and over 200 lbs... Mike[/quote] Zhen Shen is no where near 34 inches and 200 lbs.[/quote] So, I am to believe that you want me to disbelieve the people who have put their hands on both dogs and told me that Zhen Shen is 84cm and 95 KG and that Archi is 86cm and 100kg?? Because you say so?? I don't think so. Try peddling your crap on to some unsuspecting newbie. We all await for the reinforcements to start circling the wagons again. How are the snow scenting dogs coming? LOL[/quote] Archi is huge (outlier) and weighed in his prime 220lbs, Zhen Shen is a smaller but still moderately large dog and more typical for the breed. The line does not consistently produce huge dogs. Ignorance is bliss and I'll leave you to that, but other readers may be interested in more factual information than you provide on this breed you know very little about. Photo ZhenShen:

[quote=greenenergy327]Is it possible to encounter Caucasian Mountain Dogs 30+ at the shoulder?[/quote] My old male Zoot are over 32 inch high and my young male 8,5 month old Fedja is 32,7 inch. (See gallery for photos).

Over 30 inches is not uncommon, but I take issue with the reporting of extraordinary weights which is often puffery. There are a few 200+lb dogs but usually such reports are exaggerations, which then contributes to the (unfounded) criticisms that the ruination of the breed is at hand. due to breeding of oversized dogs.

Damn, and to think, you took some 6-8 months off, I thought that if you came back you would have come up with something interesting to say, or actually educational and correct. Guess I was wrong. Done with you now, bye bye. Hope the kennel hands can handle your dogs for you.

[quote=crnosrce1] Damn, and to think, you took some 6-8 months off, I thought that if you came back you would have come up with something interesting to say, or actually educational and correct. Guess I was wrong. Done with you now, bye bye. Hope the kennel hands can handle your dogs for you.[/quote] And what excactly is remark like this doing for the discussion? :roll: If you don't know, I can tell you.... It makes the atmosphere sour, and instead of motivating others to participate and discuss our breed/dogs in a civil manner, it makes people stay away from the discussions.

About dogs you mentioned, Zhen Shen and Archi, I will not talk about weight as it is hard to estimate correctly that, but concerning height the reality is that Zhen Shen is not higher then 29 inches, in spite of medium size he is however very nice KO. Archi has size 31,5. I am talking after seeing them many times in real with and without coat.

[quote=Leon]About dogs you mentioned, Zhen Shen and Archi, I will not talk about weight as it is hard to estimate correctly that, but concerning height the reality is that Zhen Shen is not higher then 29 inches, in spite of medium size he is however very nice KO. Archi has size 31,5. I am talking after seeing them many times in real with and without coat.[/quote] 29 inches is 73.7cm (not 84cm) and 31.5 inches is 80cm (not 86) 29 inches is a respectable mid height Caucasian, well over Breed Standard minimum. Thanks for the info. ------- Height is accurately measured with an instrument called a wicket and is measured at the shoulder area, not the top of the head!

[URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL] Bratislava 2003 - on left Zhen Shen on right hungarian female of intermediate class, average size.

Yes, larger than average! OH, what, this is about dogs? Sorry, I misunderstood.