I just re-read my post and perhaps I should have worded it differently,sorry. Yes Jaboa, I understand what you mean. I just figure it was another "Dogs shows ruin breeds article". Well, in a way it is. He says instead of inbreeding(which results in poor health) so much to achieve that specific type whether being for show or not. We should outcross to other breeds for improved health. For Jaboa and Tiago, I know very well your views. Lets use the Neapolitan Mastiff for an example. I know you 2 are against heavy or moderate inbreeding to achieve that extra type(wrinkle) whether for show or not. So what is your opinions of those "sneaky" :o Mastinaros who have used Mastiffs or Great Danes with their Mastini? Ofcourse they hide the facts of this, but did they improve the blood somewhat?