From time to time we all put principle over pragmatism which is why I made it a point to demonstrate that tosa was dead wrong. If tosa won't admit it, that just shows tosa's lack of character. If that's what s/he wishes to demonstrate about him/herself, more power to him/her. Another cowardly act is SM's sneaking off in silence after starting all this in the first place. Maybe SM is just a troll and nobody has figured it out yet. The other point which hasn't even been raised is that the "Newbie" forum is supposed to be a flame-free zone for newbies. Somebody needs to tell SM and tosa that. 8O *SHRUG*